should we breed our german shepherd dog?

We have a german shepherd puppy, she is 9 months and is coming into her first heat. My husband thnks we should breed her after her 2nd heat. Seems to think it would be a nice way to earn a bit of money. what do you think?

    should we breed our german shepherd dog?

    We have a german shepherd puppy, she is 9 months and is coming into her first heat. My husband thnks we should breed her after her 2nd heat. Seems to think it would be a nice way to earn a bit of money. what do you think?...
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    • should we breed our german shepherd dog?

      should we breed our german shepherd dog? General Dog Discussions
      We have a german shepherd puppy, she is 9 months and is coming into her first heat. My husband thnks we should breed her after her 2nd heat. Seems to think it would be a nice way to earn a bit of money. what do you think?

      should we breed our german shepherd dog?

      should we breed our german shepherd dog? General Dog Discussions
    • NEVER breed your animal for money. you're going to become a backyard breeder, and nobody likes those. the cost of caring, vaccinating, vet bills, food, ect is more than what you recieve back from the puppies...ughh just don't do it. get her spayed.

    • I think that you should spay her immediately, or take her into the show ring and let Judges decide if she's worthy of breeding. Shes she work, at all? Protection, Shutzhund, Agillity, Weight Pulling... anything?She shouldn't be bred before 2 years of age, and thats because thats the minimum amount of time before her hips, elbows, and cyes can be certified. Think again before you breed her.

    • No you shouldn't. GSD are notorious for hip dysplasia at her 2nd heat she hasn't even been tested for it yet. Most knowledgeable owners wouldn't touch a GSD puppy from untested parents. She shouldn't be bred at all unless she has a confirmation championship or working titles. Not a "nice way to earn a bit of money" either. If you are doing it right with all the health testing , showing or working her etc you are likely going to loose money or if you are lucky break even in the long run. Not make money

    • Breeding responsibly isn't a money maker. To be a responsible breeder, you have to start here:1. Contact a breed club for your breed. Ask for a mentor.2. STUDY the breed standard. Learn about dog anatomy and ask your mentor toclarify anything you don't understand.3. Learn what genetic faults and diseases run in your breed and test for anythat can be tested for.4. Show your dog in conformation events to see if it is of the properquality for breeding. Winning doesn't always mean a dog is breeding quality,but being around so many others that know your breed and will talk to youwill do wonders for your self-education efforts!5. Study the past history of great dogs in your breed. You will see how yourbreed has improved and progressed since the beginning of the breed.6. Study the breed standard some more! ;-)7. Join any Yahoo groups about your breed.8. Live, dream and study your breed.9. Get a good book on canine reproduction, and educate yourself about thepitfalls, problems, and proud moments of breeding. Learn about thephysiology of reproduction, such as heat cycles and venereal diseases indogs, potential for problems specific to your breed, and what you need toexpect at whelping.10. Remember that whelping (giving birth) can kill your female. Being usedas a stud dog can encourage bad behaviors common in intact males such asterritorial marking, aggression, and desire to roam from home.11. Prepare to be broke. Breeding properly is EXPENSIVE.12. Line up potential homes for any puppies you produce and write up acontract. Remember to include that you will be willing to take back yourpuppies at any time in their lives that they might need you. If you bringlife into this world, it is your responsibility FOREVER.13. Prepare to spend sleepless nights attending whelping females, caring forfading puppies or puppies orphaned, and practice cleaning up after 24/7 poopmachines.I'm sure there are many things I missed because being a responsible breederisn't just a job. It's a way of life. You will live dogs. 24/7/365. Thereare lots of hard decisions. There is a lot of expense. There will be pain.But, if you do your darndest to always keep the welfare of your dogs and thefuture of any of their offspring, you can go to step 14.14. Enjoy the love and success of a job well done.Of course *hubby* would think it's a great way to make money, as YOU will likely be bottle feeding the pups if momma dog doesn't have milk or doesn't want to, cleaning up the poop of ten or twelve puppies for 8-12 weeks, making puppy mush for 5 weeks, washing the bowls, wiping up the dirty puppies who sit in the food dish, cleaning up the whole mess from the afterbirth, and the mother's diarrhea if she eats too many placentas...it's NOT all a "Lassie Moment". Breeding is hard, dirty work.

    • no. there are enough GSDs in the shelter already. I got mine (as a PUPPY!) from there.and money is never a good reason to breed. if you do it right, you will lose money with all of the health checks and vet stuff for the puppies.

    • Ha, your husband needs to do some research. Most responsible breeders lose money when they breed. You can't breed her anyway until she is at least 2 years of age, when her bones are about finished growing. She will still be growing up to the age of 3 which will give your husband time to get all of the necessary work done before he starts to breed. First he needs to find a mentor to help him through the process. Then he needs to determine that your dog is of high quality. Minimally she should: - have at least a 3 (preferably 4 or 5) generation pedigree. - come from a line having at least 4 titled dogs in the last 3 generations. - be appropriately registered with AKC, UKC, or the parent club. - fit the breed standard. - be free of genetic defects. - have a good temperament. - be capable of performing the task(s) for which the breed was developed. - be in excellent health. Find a good stud that meets all the criteria for quality that your female did. All dogs have faults and the stud should be selected to complement the female; they should not have the same faults. Selecting a suitable mate takes time; don't wait until the female is in season. Go to local shows, consult breeders, and attend the breed's National Specialty Show to find the best stud. These are just a few things that need to be done even before you think about breeding. Since shepherds are known to have hip problems, you need to have her hips certified as well as the studs.This all takes money so make sure you are financially secure before you think about breeding. You will not make money on this believe me.

    • Number 1; More to breeding then meets the eye. Between 2 & 4years of age & done responsible it does NOT make any profit. and breeding this time of year just shows how little thought you've given to the life of the dog and the potential pups. Are you aware how many puppies are purchase on impulse this year and 6month later they are dumped as unwanted animals? Breeding this time of year almost half the litter will end up on death row eventually! Reputable breeder do not breed this time of year for humane reasons to prevent the suffering of there dog. Also are you aware that by getting your dog pregnant it RISK her death?COSTS OF HAVING A LITTERAll of the tests listed are necessary for the health of the bitch and her litter and also to screen for possible genetic problems that could occure in future generations. Don't forget the stud need to be tested.NORMAL EXPENSESBEFORE THE BREEDINGShots, Worming $ 75Brucellosis Test (Doggy VD)$ 25Hips x-rayed (for dysplasia)$ 200Elbows x-rayed (for dysplasia)$ 75Thyroid Test$ 50ACVO/CERF (eye exam) $45 per/8 years $ 360 DNA Test For PRA (eyes )$ 250 AT TIME OF BREEDINGStud Fee $ 500Boarding Expenses$ 200AFTER THE BREEDINGGood Quality Food$ 90Whelping Box$ 100Whelping supplies $100AT BIRTHVet check for Mom & Pups$ 75Dew Claw Removal $10 per puppy$ 100AS PUPPIES GROWgarbage bags$ 256 week vet visit with shots $ 250Newspaper Ad$ 40Puppy Food$ 90X-Pen for Puppies$ 75Safe Toys$ 50APPROXIMATE TOTAL COST $2,730PROBLEMS OVER & ABOVE THE NORMAL COSTSC-section $1200Mastitis $ 300Supplements if your bitch won't nurse$ 150Euthanasia for physicallydeformed puppies$ 50Trouble if a puppy/puppies don't do well $200+++PARVO and possible loss ofsome or all puppies$3000+++Other associated difficulties too many and too varied to mentionbut they can and do happen $200+++++++Approx expenses=$7,830The Reasons People Should NOT Breed Their Dogs: I want another one just like my dog.This never works according to plan. When a dog gets pregnant, the puppies will take the father's traits, personality, and physical, and the mother's traits, and mix them up, taking some of one, some of another, and developing their own altogether. You will never get a perfect match. In stead you may end up with the worst traits of both dogs.Even cloning a dog (see Cloning Your Dog) has proven that while a genetic match is possible, looks and temperament are still in the hands of Fate.I want to make money.I can't believe people can still think they can make money off of puppies. The cost of breeding will overshadow any profits you think to make. The puppies need their first shots before going to their new homes, the mother needs frequent check-ups, and heaven forbid if something goes wrong. And something always goes wrong.I want my children to witness the miracle of birth.This "miracle" can now be easily viewed by both children and adults thanks to such wonderful programming as "A Baby Story" and "Maternity Ward", both available on cable television. Not only that, but how much of a "miracle" will your child be seeing if your beloved pet dies halfway through delivery?Puppies are cute, there's always people who want puppies. No, unfortunately this is the most ignorant assumption made these days. Not everybody wants puppies. Hundreds die everyday because of the lack of homes. How heartbreaking to hold a twelve week old puppy and put her to sleep because somebody thought for sure there would be somebody else who wanted her.For every puppy born, three die in shelters. There are too many out there and not enough homes for them all.If this is not enough reasons to stop you from breeding your dog, then here are a few more: Complications in birth and pregnancies happen all the time. You could face losing your dog to death, and all the puppies with her. Will YOU pay the $1200.00 for a much-needed emergency cesarean section when she cannot deliver the pups?What about sexually-transmitted diseases? That stud dog you had picked out may have one. They are more common than you think. How about genetic diseases? They abound.Breeding is not a careless affair, it is so much more than bringing bitch and stud together during a heat cycle. Please think it over carefully.I have a purebred, AKC registered dog and should continue the line."But what do those papers really tell you? Nothing important. Nothing imperative to keep that gene line going. So your dog's father was "Dakota Sunrise"... but do you know if Dakota had heart problems, hip dysplasia, or seizures? Did his mother, "Ark's Kelly Lane" have congenital cataracts, Von Willebrand's disease, or glaucoma? These can all be inherited problems that can be passed onto your "purebred" problem litters. Do you really want to risk it? Just because your dog has good family history doesn't mean he has good medical history.My kids should see the miracle of birth."Yeah, right. What for? What would that teach them that they can't learn from educational TV, books, and the internet? Mr. Scott Vogel, our education director, has some excellent videos that are ideal for children and are probably more informative than just watching it happen to the family pet. Besides, the presence of people when an animal is preparing to give birth is extremely stressful to the pet, so much so that she may not care for the newborns or even injure them, or nearby people (like your children), as she lashes out. Surely you don't want to endanger your child OR your pet.Why would you want to expose your children to the reality of baby animals just being given away because you can't provide for the litter? What if your kids worry that you will get rid of them if you can't provide for your family? Having a litter and getting rid of it will only teach your child that life is not precious. If you REALLY want to throw the ways of the world at your kid -- just take them to an animal shelter and show them all the dogs and cats, and explain that they will die because there aren't enough homes for them all. Your kids will learn. heard she will be a better pet if she's allowed to have a litter."What? Where did you hear THAT? First-time moms are usually too nervous and don't know what they are doing; even if the DO manage to nurse, they are not the best parent to their first litter. She will be very agitated around children, strangers, and other pets. And contrary to popular myth, down the road she will NOT look upon your family as "her litter" just because she has had babies of her own. Having a litter will not "calm her down" either -- only age and training can do that. Take it from a vet!9.) "My father / boyfriend / husband won't let us get the pet fixed."Now come on, guys. Grow up a little. Neutering has nothing to do with a man's anatomy. Only the pet's testicles are worked on, not the "whole package". The animal suffers ZERO psychological damage, and won't really even notice. Keeping your pet from getting fixed for a stupid reason like that is SO selfish. Don't you want your pet to be around a long time? They will leave YEARS longer if you get them fixed. Males have decreased incidence of prostatic disease, testicular tumors, perianal tumors, and hernias! Female benefit too, with less chance of uterine infections, ovarian tumors, and mammary tumors -- which, by the way, are often malignant in dogs... but rarely happen if your dog is fixed!I want to make some money!Breeding, and doing it right, is an expensive undertaking. By the time you've picked out a good bitch, waited for her to grow old enough (minimum age: two years before breeding), picked out the best dog to mate her with, gone through all the health checks she needs, ensured that the dog you want to use also passes the same health checks, you've invested a lot of time and effort. You still have to pay a stud fee (or give a puppy back), you have potential extra expenses during pregnancy, you have the time and expense of whelping (either you take time off from work or something goes wrong and you have to take her in to the vets). You need to keep the puppies for a minimum of 8 weeks before sending them to their homes; you need to advertise and find good homes for the puppies, you need to make sure they have had their shots before going. You may have possible vet bills if the puppies require extra attention. If some of the puppies die, or you have a smaller than usual litter, you may not get as much money from the sale of the puppies as you had though. There are even potential problems later on with dissatified customers! You are better off consulting with a financial wizard about investing the money you would otherwise spend and lose on breeding! Breeders frequently count themselves lucky if they break even.

    • Hate to break it to you, but when you breed, you hardly ever break even. There's a lot to be considered before breeding, like, conformation shows or working trials, extensive genetic health testing, having an emergency vet on call just in case something happens etc. Please read these articles:http://www.woodhavenlabs.com/breeding/breeder2.htmlhttp://www.woodhavenlabs.com/breeding/video.htmlhttp://www.woodhavenlabs.com/breeding/breeder3.htmlhttp://www.godivalabs.com/cost.htmlhttp://www.woodhavenlabs.com/justonelitter.html

    • That is not a good reason to breed. After all of the care of her for her life and the start of the pups. There isn't a profit and there are 1000's of purebred GDS's that are getting euthanized each year at the shelters through out the country because of poor breeding habits. If she gets spayed before her first heat she will have a better cahnce of not coming down with serious female problems down the road and those cost a fortune to address at the vet's office.You will have a much healthier companion if you spay her.

    • Money money money, is that all your ignorant husband can think about? Since when is it ethical to consider a dog your own personal supply of cash? Why should your dog be bringing home the bacon? Surely that's your job?I hate to be harsh, but do you even know the implications of breeding randomly?No, so don't even bother.A dog must be shown/worked, titled and health-tested for genetic hereditary conditions to justify breeding it. If you breed a dog that does not have these assets, you will just be adding another litter load to the millions of pet-quality dogs that are already wasting away in shelter.Breeding, when done ethically, is also NEVER profitable. Do you really think that after numerous show fees, health-testing, stud fees, vet checks, home visits to potential owners, extra food, worming and vaccinations you will have any money left over? Good breeders rarely even meet their costs - but then they don't breed for money. Your dog is old enough to be spayed. Please make an appointment ASAP.

    • no1. She should not be bred on her 2nd heat. Dogs should never be bred until the age of 2.2. You wont earn money. Breeding is EXPENSIVE. First the dog should be shown or worked and have titles to her name. She also needs proper health tests done thru OFA, CERF, BAER, PennHip and Optigen.. some of these tests can run a few hundred each, as xrays are required. Whelping supplies cost money. Stud fees cost money, prenatal care costs money, cecarians can cost upwards of $3,000.. post natal vet care costs money, providing vet care to the puppies costs money.. You'd be lucky to break even.. many breeders LOOSE money.

    • ok, first of all, unless you breed dogs for a living - ie. you have several female dogs that are constantly having puppies - you are NOT going to be making any money! At 9 months she is too young to have pups and I am glad your husband realizes that. She should not be bred before she is 2 years old.Is she registered? How about the stud? Is he registered? Also a German Shepherd? People put a lot of value in a dog having papers. Let's just say she has puppies. Her first litter may well be small (3-5 pups). You will have to feed your female puppy food while she is pregnant and after because she will need the extra nutrition. More than likely one or more of the puppies will die within the first week. This is not unusual. So now you are left with, say 2 puppies. They may need to be supplemented with puppy formula if the mom does not want anything to do with them. The mom may need help with birthing (can you say high vet bill), the mom may need a cesaren (can you say HIGHER vet bill). You will need to have the pups wormed and they will need their first shots before you send them home. Or, lets say your have a huge litter - 11 puppies. You sell 9 of them and end up stuck with 2 - do you have room to keep them? Or are you going to dump them at the pound?Do you have the room to have 11 huge @$$ puppies running around your house for 2 months?There really is not that high a demand for large, active dogs like the Shepherd.